Comité 10.04.2022
NOTES ON REUNION 10.04.2022 special 2nd thoughts on Wagon Stay question
malcolm, diana, noé, gregoire, claire, silvan, alvin
modération : diana
notes : claire
FEELING ROUND
grégoire what can i really do for the maison-matrice ? (long term question)
malcolm says the stress about this reunion is on him
Silvan questions : who has had second thoughts ?
Claire says – I
Malcolm about Wagon Stay question
Update/recap of situation : last reunion, Martinha and Silvan asked to leave the wagon at the MM for their 3-4 month-long trip, at the condition that the wagon may not become an extension of the foyer and only be used by permanents. Diana has proposed to try to move in and to take care of the wagon even if she doesn’t use it.
2nd thoughts
Similar experiences where permanents leave the house and leave stuff behind. This has always been a load for the MM. We want to avoid that. Suggestion : a principle that says that you leave with your belongings at the end of your residency, and leave things behind as donations to the project. Many people come and go, if everyone leaves personal belongings behind we have a mess. On the other hand many objects are left and put to use, providing things are taken care of, or even improved (piano with moisture control), or that changes are reversible (eg. blue paint, mezzanine dismantlement)
Abandoned discussions for pain and confrontation avoidance : pending until Martinha/Silvan leave (Foyer use discussion)
Malcolm in short : things left behind should go to the collective, and ? : precision about Martinha/Silvan intentions after Portugal
Silvan : intention after Portugal is not at all to spend another winter at the MM. Two weeks or something like that. We could sleep in the van if the wagon is still occupied.
About stuff left behind : i understand the point about things behind left behind fully after confronting the problem personally. here, we leave only the wagen.
Collective use : the wagen is our home, it is super precious to us. however i don’t like empty spaces and i wouldn’t want it to be locked and not used. that’s why we wouldn’t be confortable if people staying short term would use it because we have observed lack of consideration, for eg. Mexique, where every one is responsible – and somehow no one is responsible.
Foyer imprint : Diana is one single adult with a lot of connexions to the 1st floor vs. a family with no connexions to the upper floor.
Diana : has gone to the Wagon to project herself and has felt positive about her desire to live in it for a few months. it’s an opportunity to be in a more remote and calmer place. I am curious to try life in a wagon platz – this would be a luxury way to try it.
Malcolm : would you make your current room available for someone else ?
Diana : yes. By Martinha and Silvan’s return in August-September it might be my time to leave for my studies in Bern.
Malcolm I’m willing to be responsible and care directly for the wagon, but not in a way to be telling every resident how to do it. I don’t see how other people would use it.
Claire i needed Diana’s commitment to be clear, and to know whether her room could be freed for other purposes. i see a great match and wouldn’t have seen the wagon as an object accessible for the wider community because of it’s high personal value. i also needed to know what Martinha/Silvan’s plan’s are. knowing that they clearly have a time limit is cool, especially with regard to ongoing tensions which will be resolved naturally. other possibility fine, but we’d have to confront the Foyer discussion for sure, to make a good structure. a word of recognition of the pain surrounding the ongoing tensions with Martinha/Silvan over last fall/winter especially, and gratitude for all these same relations have brought.
Alvin : what does it imply to take care of the wagon ?
Silvan : not so much to do, it’s more an emotional thing. few practical things i will tell Diana.
Noé : what if we need to move the wagon to start the renovation ?
Silvan sure, i had thought about it too. we could call people to move it out if there’s an extreme situation. but i don’t think moving the wagon is necessary for renovation works. worst case i’m back in Crémines with the train in 2 days.
Noé : Ese was not cooking in the Mexique.
Diana I have not once cooked for myself in the past few weeks. I suppose it’s up to my affinities with the residents or the upstair fauna.
Disclaimer : If something doesn’t go as planned we’ll have talk. You guys really need me to promise ?
Noé : how about a general rule about belongings to leave behind ?
Silvan general rule : you don’t leave stuff behind. otherwise it’s considered a donation. if special request for particular belonging, bring it up to the committee and ask permission.
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